“homosexual acts between individuals are immoral”
“… just like [adultery] … We prosecute that kind of immoral behavior, …”
Four-star General Pace (1967 US Naval Academy graduate), should be supported by members of all branches of the military in general, including all fellow officers (company/field/general officer grades), and by fellow graduates of the Army/Navy/Air Force United States Service Academies; (USMA – West Point, USNA – Annapolis, USAFA – Colorado Springs), for having the moral courage to speak the truth that homosexual acts are immoral (e.g., acts of sodomy between men, or lesbian acts between women).
www.defenselink.mil/bios/pace_bio.html
The honorable words of General Peter Pace:
“I believe that homosexual acts between individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts,” Pace said Monday. “I do not believe that the armed forces of the United States are well served by a saying through our policies that it’s OK to be immoral in any way.”
www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-03-13-pace-homosexulaity_N.htm?csp=34
“As an individual, I would not want [acceptance of gay behavior] to be our policy, just like I would not want it to be our policy that if we were to find out that so-and-so was sleeping with somebody else’s wife, that we would just look the other way, which we do not. We prosecute that kind of immoral behavior,” Pace said.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/03/top_general_hom.html
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Of course acts of sodomy between men are immoral. Acts of sodomy are also criminal. For example, in the South Carolina Code of Laws, acts of sodomy are described as “the abominable crime of buggery.”SECTION 16-15-120. Buggery.
www.scstatehouse.net/code/t16c015.htm
More pertinently to the comments by the top-ranking general in the military chain of command, four-star General Peter Pace, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is that acts of sodomy are a crime under the Uniform Code of Military Justice:
Uniform Code of Military Justice
SUBCHAPTER X. PUNITIVE ARTICLES
Sec. Art.
925. 125. Sodomy.
www.army.mil/references/UCMJ/ucmj2.html#925.%20ART.%20125.%20SODOMY
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George W. Bush appointee, and member of the globalist, pro-New World Order, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), former CIA director, former University president, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates (General Pace’s superior), predictably undermined the assertion by General Peter Pace of the need for honorable moral conduct in the US Armed Forces:
“Defense Secretary Robert Gates expressed displeasure with the Pentagon’s top general Tuesday for criticizing homosexuality, saying such personal opinions have no place in the military.”
www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-03-13-pace-homosexulaity_N.htm?csp=34
However, it is more the position of General Pace, USNA 67, not the position taken by CFR-puppet Secretary of Defense Robert Gates (www.mega.nu/ampp/roundtable/CFRF-Klist.html)which reflects the military position at our nation’s founding:
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Lieutt. Enslin of Colo. Malcom’s Regiment [was]
tried for attempting to commit sodomy,
with John Monhort a soldier;
Secondly, For Perjury in swearing to false accounts,
[he was] found guilty of the charges exhibited against him,
being breaches of 5th. Article 18th. Section of the Articles of War
and [we] do sentence him to be disniss’d [from] the service with infamy.
His excellency the Commander in Chief [Washington]
approves the sentence and with abhorrence and detestation
of such infamous crimes orders Lieutt. Enslin
to be drummed out of camp tomorrow morning
by all the drummers and fifers in the Army never to return;
The drummers and fifers [are] to attend on the Grand Parade
at Guard mounting for that Purpose.
John C. Fitzpatrick, ed. (Washington, U.S. Government Printing Office, 1934),
Vol. XI, pp.83-84, from General Orders at Valley Forge on March 14, 1778.
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Acts of sodomy between men are immoral because God says such acts are immoral, in His Holy Word, the Bible (e.g., Leviticus 18:22; Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:26,27 and 1 Corinthians 6:9,10). That is why acts of sodomy are immoral.
Acts of sodomy between men are criminal because this has been codified in law, such as the SC Code of Laws and the Uniform Code of Military Justice, above.
Sodomy is a Crime:
AGAINST the Laws of God;
AGAINST the Laws of Nature;
AGAINST the Uniform Code of Military Justice
Thank you General Pace, for exercising moral leadership on behalf of your country, and on behalf of the Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines under your charge !
“It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.”
General George Washington
Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War (1775-1783)
Chairman of the Constitutional Convention (1787)
First President of the United States of America (1789-1797)
God’s Word, the Bible is authoritative for all men, for all nations, for all time (Matthew 4:4).
Steve Lefemine
1977-1982, USA, FA, CPT
ABN, FAOBC, FACBOC, MOC, ARCOM(2)
1982-1993, USAR, FA, MAJ
IOAC
USMA 77
[emphasis added on articles, quotes]
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USA Today
News – Washington
www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-03-13-pace-homosexulaity_N.htm?csp=34
Pace, Gates: Personal views on gays in service out of line
[Posted, then Updated March 13, 2007]
[photo], by Tim Dillon, USA TODAY
Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said allowing gays to serve openly in the military would condone immorality.
DON’T ASK, DON’T TELL
Gen. Pace: Homosexuality ‘immoral’ Pentagon lists homosexuality as disorder
Bipartisan bill aims to repeal military policy on gays
Supreme Court upholds campus recruiting
Costs: Highly trained officers discharged due to gay policy $363M lost from discharges
Editorial: Time to repeal ‘don’t tell’
By Tom Vanden Brook and David Jackson, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON Defense Secretary Robert Gates expressed displeasure with the Pentagon’s top general Tuesday for criticizing homosexuality, saying such personal opinions have no place in the military.
Gates reacted to comments by Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who said in the Chicago Tribune on Monday that he considered homosexual acts to be “immoral.” Pace likened homosexuality to adultery.
During an interview on the Pentagon Channel, Gates declined to give his opinion on the current military policy: “Personal opinion really doesn’t have a place here. … What’s important is that we have a law, a statute that governs ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’
“That’s the policy of this department, and it’s my responsibility to execute that policy as effectively as we can,” Gates said. “As long as the law is what it is, that’s what we’ll do.”
Pace expressed regret Tuesday for calling homosexuality immoral. In a statement, he said he should have focused more in the interview on the Pentagon’s policy about gays and “less on my personal moral views.”
He did not apologize, which some gay advocacy groups, such as the Service members Legal Defense Network, had demanded.
“Gen. Pace’s comments are outrageous, insensitive and disrespectful to the 65,000 lesbian and gay troops now serving in our armed forces,” the group said in a statement on its website.
ON DEADLINE: Gay rights groups call Pace comments ‘outrageous’
White House spokesman Tony Snow said it’s the Pentagon’s job to enforce the current policy regarding gays in the military. That policy allows gays and lesbians to serve if they keep their sexual orientation private and don’t engage in homosexual acts.
Rep. Marty Meehan said Pace’s comments weren’t “in line with either the majority of the public or the military.” The Massachusetts Democrat has introduced a bill to repeal the current policy.
Pace told the Tribune he supports the policy which prohibits commanders from asking about a person’s sexual orientation.
“I believe that homosexual acts between individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts,” Pace said Monday. “I do not believe that the armed forces of the United States are well served by a saying through our policies that it’s OK to be immoral in any way.”
AUDIO: Pace speaks out
Pace became chairman on Sept. 30, 2005. His term expires at the end of September, but he is eligible for two, two-year extensions.
Pace said he based his views on his upbringing.
Jackson reported from Merida, Mexico. Contributing: The Associated Press
_________________________________________
USA Today
News
ON DEADLINE Breaking News and must-read stories
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/03/top_general_hom.html
Top general: Homosexuality is immoral
It doesn’t sound like Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, will be supporting any changes to the Clinton-era “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy on gays in the military.
“I believe homosexual acts between two individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts,” Pace, the president’s top military adviser, said during an interview with the Chicago Tribune. “I do not believe the United States is well served by a policy that says it is OK to be immoral in any way.”
• Listen to portions of the general’s wide-ranging interview.
“As an individual, I would not want [acceptance of gay behavior] to be our policy, just like I would not want it to be our policy that if we were to find out that so-and-so was sleeping with somebody else’s wife, that we would just look the other way, which we do not. We prosecute that kind of immoral behavior,” Pace said.
Update at 8:28 a.m. ET: Gay rights groups are now responding to the general’s comments. Here’s what the Servicemember’s Legal Defense Network says in a statement posted on its website:
“General Pace’s comments are outrageous, insensitive and disrespectful to the 65,000 lesbian and gay troops now serving in our armed forces,” the group’s executive director said. “Our men and women in uniform make tremendous sacrifices for our country, and deserve General Pace’s praise, not his condemnation. As a Marine and a military leader, General Pace knows that prejudice should not dictate policy. It is inappropriate for the Chairman to condemn those who serve our country because of his own personal bias. He should immediately apologize for his remarks.”
Update at 9:45 a.m. ET: Listen to a critic from the Human Rights Campaign who says sexual orientation has nothing to do with the ability to serve.
Update at 12:30 p.m. ET. Pelosi comments:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., told reporters a short time ago that she is “disappointed in the moral judgment that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff made,” USA TODAY’s Kathy Kiely tells us.
Pelosi also said the military needs all “competent” and “patriotic” Americans and that “the military should carefully consider changing its policy.” She did not, though, answer a question about whether she will introduce a bill to force such a change.
From the On Deadline archives:
• Efforts to toss military’s ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy
• 7 paratroopers charged in gay-porn scandal
• Court says colleges must let military recruit
• ‘Don’t ask’ cost to taxpayers: $364M
Posted at 08:00 AM/ET, March 13, 2007 in Nation, Washington Permalink
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Opinion – Opposing Editorials:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/usa_today_editorial/index.html
Pro-open-sodomites position, supports removing the current ban on open sodomites in the military, editorial by USA Today:
“Our view on the ban on gays: Old prejudice dishonors new military generation”
http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2007/03/post_31.html#more
Anti-open-sodomites position, supports keeping the current ban on open sodomites in the military, editorial by Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA), former chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, presently a candidate for US President
“Opposing view: Keep the ban in place”
http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2007/03/opposing_view_k.html#more
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